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 on: June 10, 2017, 06:20:33 AM 
Started by jhonabundance - Last post by Duu
Hi,
Very kind of you to ask.

Just my opinion. Grounding page is more like shaktipat enhanced exercise. So one is expected to participate and thus be a co creator of ones experience. And for that I don’t think you need any special permission as it is already offered for all who come and take part in it.  However it is not a formal shaktipat in that meaning as it is sometimes understood in some schools.

Love,

Duu

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 on: June 10, 2017, 06:07:16 AM 
Started by Purple - Last post by Duu
Hi, thank you that you came again to give us update.

Yes it is interesting that one intuits that in religions or even esoteric paths there must be core of the essential, the life giving, love behind it. Yet when one looks at what is presented in life today then one will hardly find it there.
I personally think that those that suffer chronic pain or mental dis-ease are in a way more advanced in spiritual way then many of those and reiki “masters”, yoga “teachers” and neo “shamans” etc.
Because they in a way touched the fragile and tragic side of our humanity. They are less prone to be fascinated by spiritual delusions in our mass markets. They know the truth that the “masters” and “talkers” still wish to avoid and put their head in the sand. While at the same time loudly claiming that they seek it.
They really cant say anything that would matter to a person who suffers profoundly.
Spiritual things are not grand things, or goals to be sought. And also they are not about techniques.

Great Atisha once said: The way to enlightenment is a walk trough garden of pleasures.
So in case one wish to apply a method then it would be good to keep this in mind. One has to be in the body and perceptive to know if a method as its applied is pleasurable or not. Often when we start to push or are not perceptive about how we feel. We drift towards self violence.
And there is no reason to add violence to our body. Nor there is any reason to think that violence is a way to enlightenment. Thats my comment on the theme of method that you asked.

I think awakening of kundalini is cool thing, but really to become a more warm and human person is a more valuable thing. Its something that comes from life and it is not connected to religion or spiritual path. And if we do what we can in our situation I think that is sufficient.
I also had situations where what I could do was just little and rest was taken by overwhelming life situation of pain and suffering. If you can do just little then that is perfectly fine.
If many of the spiritual junkies could see clearly the human situation as it is, they drop their nonsense they do and say on the spot.

I read an interview recently how some big buddhist centers in America were proud that they do newly a screenings for mental disease, depression, schizophrenia etc. And remove those people from meditation practice. 
I felt that, that is in a sense good. Because I knew that most of the meditation teachers are basically amateurs and could not deal with such a person. And also there is a mass technique taught to all as a sort of pill. Thus if not adjusted, problems are more likely to occur. Yet it shocked me.
I was very saddened by their attitude to remove those people. As if they wanted to have a clean class… remove those diseased and lacking, away.. we don't want to see them and face them. We don't want to see the dirt and fragility of human psychology in our faces.
They want to present to students a delusion.. a beautiful artificial room and clean people who don't even have and asshole much less a dick.
So if they call that a spirituality then I abstain.

What I learned from FST and from life is that many of the greatest shining people and saints I know today have suffered a lot in their lives and perhaps many of them could maybe be diagnosed with a mental disease of some sort. They manage it well, with smile and strength but cary the burden still on, it is not gone. They are real heroes to which I can but aspire. They are not in public eye nor speak spiritual jargon. Yet when you meet them for but a moment you know. They were not born that strong they grown to it.  And any real spiritual method they got was just a help here and there.

Love,
Duu

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 on: June 06, 2017, 07:22:13 PM 
Started by Purple - Last post by Purple
Gustav and Duu so true thank you.  In my personal journey I have never had a teacher I just did what I did and discovered through this site the terms.   I have never used the sacral  chakra as my grounding  point until I discovered this site.  In the year between this threads original post and the responses provided, I started using the grounding technique you linked.  I had a major reawakening and learned that I was burning fears and creating something-not sure what.  What spirit taught me as an 8 year old  was to breath through crown  (to draw in at medium breath from a point above crown down through chakras through openings in  arch  of foot Then hold and exhale slowly through nose from point below feet and stop at crown. As I evolved these last two years, I understand I am blessed in having these imprints of  love, empath, third eye abilities that have never left me, but I lost sight of the grounding exercise and stayed with my-as I defined it- default technique.  I always go through cycles for now almost 50 years. 
I'm starting a new cycle and that's what drew me back here.  Is my technique a replacement or do I do both.  There is none in my world, town  or area that has a clue what I'm about.  Your assessments of knowing my body are correct at least I now have a shield strong enough to keep the trolls out and I don't block any good.  I have surrendered to the present and hope to have directions to my next steps.  What are my behaviors doing to hold me back and what guidance can I get to move forward
Love purple

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 on: June 06, 2017, 07:12:57 PM 
Started by Purple - Last post by Purple
Gustav and Duu so true thank you.  In my personal journey I have never had a teacher I just did what I did and discovered through this site the terms.   I have never used the sacral  chakra as my grounding  point until I discovered this site.  In the year between this threads original post and the responses provided, I started using the grounding technique you linked.  I had a major reawakening and learned that I was burning fears and creating something-not sure what.  What spirit taught me as an 8 year old  was to breath through crown  (to draw in at medium breath from a point above crown down through chakras through openings in  arch  of foot Then hold and exhale slowly through nose from point below feet and stop at crown. As I evolved these last two years, I understand I am blessed in having these imprints of  love, empath, third eye abilities that have never left me, but I lost sight of the grounding exercise and stayed with my-as I defined it- default technique.  I always go through cycles for now almost 50 years. 
I'm starting a new cycle and that's what drew me back here.  Is my technique a replacement or do I do both.  There is none in my world, town  or area that has a clue what I'm about.  Your assessments of knowing my body are correct at least I now have a shield strong enough to keep the trolls out and I don't block any good.  I have surrendered to the present and hope to have directions to my next steps.  What are my behaviors doing to hold me back and what guidance can I get to move forward
Love purple

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 on: May 31, 2017, 03:19:34 AM 
Started by jhonabundance - Last post by jhonabundance
Dear Mystress Angelique,

May i ask your permission to get free shaktipat through the grounding pages?

Thank you,

Jhon - Indonesia

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 on: May 30, 2017, 05:12:05 AM 
Started by khalil_patwa - Last post by khalil_patwa
Dear Angelique,

I really appreciate your feedback and input.

It's led me to a phase of reflection and introspection, (and even dredging of my murky depths), and now I'm getting my internal house in order before going back to the writing.

I'll let you know when that next phase is complete. I'd still like to reference you, in the context of the impact that your Grounding visualisation has had on me. And yes, I will remove that 'trampled' version, from the website also… to be replaced with something that comes from my place of inspirational yearning.

Thank you for sharing your stories here also.

Khalil

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 on: April 24, 2017, 06:32:17 AM 
Started by khalil_patwa - Last post by Mystress
continuing...

  If someone asks me if they *should* become a Fire Serpent Tantra member, I tell them to ask their heart, and all of my lineage are trained to respond the same way.  I cannot make that decision for them, I wont accept that power or the responsibility, I give it back. Otherwise I am being Goddess for them and all the karma they release as a student would flow to me too.

  Unless it is the way that their heart leads, then it will be of no benefit to them anyway. The whole thing is about personal empowerment, learning to surrender and it starts even before it starts. That sort of alignment, is essential. There is no sales pitch, no promises, no persuasion. Most of the students say the deciding factor for them, was how my energy feels. Creativity, charges the pages up. Their experience of the course, will be as Goddess wills, and I can imagine no more powerful prayer for them.

  People love to give away their personal responsibility and if you accept it then there is this other thing that happens, nuances of karmic laws. If you are doing the promotion persuasion stuff, asking for it... well, just don't go there. Even aside from the karmic penalty, the sort of people you will attract: people who define themselves by their dysfunctions, but do not want to take responsibility for themselves,  sometimes are more invested in getting that validated with attention, than in letting it go. If you are patient and charging by the hour, then... lol. I enjoy seeing people grow, more.

  There is a necessity to avoid it, and always be giving people their power back.  Good healers, if you try to thank them, say "I am only the vessel, give your thanks to..." (whatever patron God-dess)

  It is important, if they accept the gratitude then they are accepting responsibility for the healing instead of passing the buck upward. The karma that was released for the healing, lands on them personally. With your work, they are the ones that did the growing and it was an honour to witness. Don't take or ask for responsibility. Stay humble, and pass the buck,  to avoid taking hits.

  There are the really successful guys, like Tony Robbins who can pull off both, but if you examine more closely, he is totally focused on training people to empower themselves, even has a documentary on netflix titled, "dont call me guru." He is pretty transparent and he is walking his talk, he is the product of what he teaches. There is alignment of his work, his purpose and his image.  Alignment, is the difference between a light bulb and a laser. The photons are all going the same direction.

  Most of my advertising is in the form of astral beacons that only light up to someone who is wondering "how can I get some..." of what I am offering. Synchronicity does the rest. Some of the beacons are not even switched on, all the time. I am kind of a hermit.

  I think of it, like a little sign beside the highway. "Joe's Diner, 5 miles." If you are hungry, you will take notice, if you are not, you keep driving. There are no promises that the food will be good, or that the cafe will even be open, only, "here is where to find it. If you want some." If the food is awesome, then viral does the rest and the little sign is all it needs. Ever seen a commercial for Rolls Royce? Yet you know what it is, and what it represents.  That kind of quality, does not need any sales pitch.

  I once had a friend who sold mercedes and BMW... he laughed at the sales pitch games. His job was just, "what colour do you want it in?" People arrived, pre-sold. I think you have that kind of quality, the light shining within, once you find your voice to speak from that inspiration. I think, if you postpone publishing your book, even for a year you will end up rewriting about a third of it, and it will do better.

  I don't mind you pointing people to my work. Small quotes, like the snippet of the Cracked website page I posted, properly attributed, I would consider fair use.  Asking me to validate and approve your trampled version of the grounding though... obviously, no.

  Publishing the whole grounding would be too much. I have only ever allowed on person to do that, Irman... he translated it into Indonesian and actually dedicated the whole book to me in the front. Very generous attribution. Years later, he too came up with his own version of the grounding, I consider it excessively over-complicated but I would agree it is his own. He likes to hang out with ascended masters and long dead gurus, and share what they show him, its valid. I prefer to work with Goddess directly. I cherish Her elegant simplicity but men often prefer things complicated. 

  An old friend from the early days approached me about a kundalini-related novel he was writing, he included me in it as an expositional character and used quotes from my website, for my dialogue. Interesting project. He knew Susan too, from the early days, and found her to be an angry ghost. She was not ready to go. I do not know what she died of, but my feeling is, her marketing approach had a hidden cost and she did not believe my warnings, and paid the price.

  I have been meaning to write more on this topic for a while, you inspired me. I have seen too many good healers and teachers, fall from grace, or die, or both. Grateful to my Shaman guide, he always is quick to let me know if my actions are not aligned.

   Good luck with your work, and stay in touch. Blessings...

   

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 on: April 24, 2017, 05:25:54 AM 
Started by khalil_patwa - Last post by Mystress
  Creativity, yes!! The energy goes into anything creative I do, whether I want it to or not. Creativity is the magic.

  Following the marketing advice you become just one more clone out of the lifestyle coach blogger factory. Following your muse, your heart... that makes the art. 

  But there is another, much more important reason to skip following the advice of the salesman types, and that is because your life depends on it. I have outlasted and outlived most of the kundalini teachers who were around when I started, many have simply disappeared. I have seen, even brilliant teachers like Stuart Wilde, turn into tinfoil hats as the karma of teaching accumulated. So many teachers head into some kind of psychosis over time, I call it Guru sickness. Either the body breaks down, usually kidney or liver failure, sometimes the heart... or the mind breaks, they become a little paranoid, a little crazy, more and more controlling of their seekers like Nirmala Devi.

  I have seen disaster strike close to those who felt themselves magically protected from the karma of their choices, the shrapnel hit those who care about them, instead. Taking spiritual responsibility for other people is hazardous. Even the regular kind is, look at how fast presidents age.

   Free Will is Goddess law. There is an important, intertwined relationship between karma, power and responsibility. In making an effort to persuade, investing in image, you are disrespecting someone's free will, trying to gain their power.  If you succeed, then you have taken on a role of being God for them and their karma will flow to you. Especially if you are working intimately with someone to help clear their dysfunctions, and its common to massage therapists, chiropractors and other healing arts. The shadow side of good intentions, the cosmic law dynamic of power, karma and responsibility entwined, takes people down.

 Ramana came out and said it, his liver was poisoned by karma his devotees were resistant to letting go. That was a heads-up to me, because he was awesome and if he could not survive it, what hope did I have? I spent years exploring the dynamic of karma transfer, and came out the other side with zero interest in being Guru or Goddess for anyone, and focused on teaching a DIY path of personal empowerment.  My grounding is a way to grant shaktipat, to yourself, and a head space of surrender and insight to resolve what it brings up.

  Every bit of karma, is emotional energy collected around a pearl of insight that started out as a wrong idea. The Guru takes both, and you get advancement at the cost of dependence. It is those pearls of self knowledge that provide the foundation for spiritual stability in advancement. I teach people to do karma vamping, the transmuted emotional energy goes back to being the pure creative fire it was made from, raw creative energy of manifestation for doing art and magic, they can keep that stuff but the pearls of insight, must be given back to the owner to balance the dynamic, even if it means passing the info onto their higher self. 

  A few years ago, I got an ongoing calling to train sanguine vampires... Their imperative is genuine and comes with some intriguing and unusual spiritual abilities, that most of them have no idea about.  I find for them it is the same. They need the energy of blood from a donor, but they also have to share the insights they get from it or the relationship becomes unbalanced, with the donors becoming very dependent, turning stalker, or going the other way with some belief of why they have to stop. 

  Karma, power, responsibility. Karmic laws like physics, action and reaction. There has to be mindfulness of how it flows, and a focus on alignment and balance. Awareness of the cost of taking power, how to give it back multiplied. Alignment with the karmic laws and with your own dharma, the will of your own Divine Self and the truth of who you are. Putting yourself out there has to be really, even painfully honest and all these ideas of image, marketing and persuasion become poison. The more powerful you become, the more important it is. Like a car with bad wheel alignment, does not matter at school zone speeds but take it on the racetrack and it could kill you.

  Susan Carlson died last year. I was her mentor for a time in the late 90s, early 2000s,  before and for a while after she went off to take a coat tail ride with Glenn Morris. He died, so she went with his guy Santiago and kept doing what she was doing and now she is dead, years before she got old enough to get a pension check.

  We were close at one time but she had a narcissistic streak and when I saw how she was using kundalini for self promotion and not really taking care of people, I kicked her to the curb.  I warned her of the karmic hazards of her approach... trying to do global shaktipat, for example, is extremely hazardous. Someone posted to my list that they were doing another global shaktipat in her memory and I could only shake my head.
  I let go and didn't follow her career much after but people who knew us both, liked to give me updates, so I noticed when she added Phd. to her name and had a cynical thought, "get that out of a cracker jack box?" Ya. Turned out, to be a Doctor of divinity from an unaccredited spiritual university, a diploma mill. Image over substance. Not to speak ill of the dead, I hold no ill will towards her, and I know she helped many people... but a cautionary tale.

  I see kids on you tube, offering shaktipat to anyone. They have no clue about the price they will pay for their hero trip.  When you grant shaktipat to awaken k in someone, it is being God-dess substitute for them, become their root guru and their karma will flow to you for about a decade. Shaktipat, is not surrender. Goddess will awaken someone when the time is right. It is ego that wants to intervene and speed things up, and there is a steep price to pay.

  Your pages don't say anything about Shaktipat, but the dynamic has effect anyway because you are awakened and want to help people. 


   continues...

 9 
 on: April 24, 2017, 12:11:48 AM 
Started by Uriel - Last post by Mystress

  Your assessment of my spiritual attainments are not relevant to me. Your behavior shows you are in the very early stages of awakening. You will think differently when you have matured some more. It all takes time.

  Very generous of you though, to demonstrate how very not angelic you are, with this outpouring of negative judgments and anger. So very human, eh?

  Sorry you hate being human so much that you reject it in favour of the fantasy. Sympathies for the trauma you are trying to escape, but you are human, with normal human feelings and you will have to accept it eventually... and then you will be able to see the love, where you think it is not.  Smiley 

  It is a phase, and you will get over it and come around to embrace your humanity again, and realize your human life, is a precious gift no angel can attain.

    Blessings.

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 on: April 18, 2017, 07:58:59 AM 
Started by khalil_patwa - Last post by khalil_patwa
Dear Angelique,

Yes, you're correct, I do appreciate you taking the time to share your feedback with me. It's refreshing to receive your unfiltered response. Your analysis of the writing on my website resonates… I've had difficulty finding my voice while attempting to follow those marketing rules, which I'm letting go of now. Reading what you've written has highlighted how I've been taking an intellectual approach to what I present on my website, whereas I'm really looking to express myself creatively. Which, as you've pointed out needs the time put in to develop the craft.

With regards to the book, I will remove those pieces which referenced your work.

Also, thanks for those sharing those links and quotes.


Khalil

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